Starlink 2025, here we go again

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

23 Responses

  1. Kevin says:

    I presume Roam Unlimited still includes the Bahamas.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      A good question. I don’t know. My gut is that it may not as it’s outside your home country’s territorial waters. Let me see if I can get clarity.

      -Ben S.

      • scott says:

        I’m hoping roam unlimited will work in the Bahamas but I doubt it as well. I’m expecting to need to go to maritime plans at a much higher cost. Clarification would be appreciated. I also see that many of the islands aren’t even shown on the current starlink map (Berries, Exumas, and others) making it even more likely that ocean only data will be required.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      I have received word that the Bahamas should continue to be included in Roam. The same territorial waters concept applies to Bahamian waters, which should mean good service once in the Bahamas though likely no service on the way there. I’m still trying to confirm some details about opt-in data with Roam. I think I may have gotten that wrong.

      -Ben S.

      • Scott says:

        But if I understand the updated terms correctly that would still only allow 5 consecutive days while in coastal Bahamas. If so, one would still be forced to switch to a priority plan to get unlimited time in coastal/ocean waters. Correct?

        • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

          Scott,

          I think that is exactly what Starlink’s support articles state. However, to my knowledge, that limit is not being enforced at present. Which is one of the challenging aspects of figuring out their service offerings. There is what’s written and what’s enforced. Often the two don’t reconcile very well.

          -Ben S.

      • Whitall Stokes says:

        I spent 90 days (Dec-Feb) in the Bahamas with a Starlink Mini and the Roam Unlimited Plan. No interruptions, no loss of service, no change from US service. Opted in to Ocean service when transiting back to US. There were upcharges for phone calls.

        BTW, these plan changes are sort of to be expected. A large upfront capital cost structure and Starlink doesn’t really know how many customers are going to sign up for what level of service. They are feeling their way forward to a sustainable model IMO.

  2. Baylor Fooks says:

    I believe the advantages of buying Starlink through a partner like KVH are starting to emerge. KVH’s value is that they have stated they will not put mariners through all these plan changes. Time will tell if they can stick to that, but I am going to start referring clients to KVH rather than buying service directly from Starlink.

  3. Wade Griffith says:

    0rganizations take on the personality of their leadership. Hence Starlink’s apparent addiction to constant (and often clumsily implemented) change.

  4. Here in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State) many boaters use Starlink for travel to and from Alaska each summer. Travel involves passing through Canadian waters and then into Alaska / US Waters. Rarely do folks spend 2 months in Canadian waters on a one way passage to or from Alaska and Washington State. So I don’t see any changes in service for folks in this area using the ROAM plan. I believe that Starlink still represents a tremendous value relative to the Hardware investment and Monthly costs for traditional KVH style of SATCOM antenna systems. Traditional SATCOM has always been limited to modest Kb/Sec speeds topping out near 1Mbps, so “standard” priority data rates on Starlink still dwarf far more expensive traditional “KVH Style” SATCOM. With the recent reduction in costs for all Starlink phased array fixed antenna systems (Standard and High Performance) access to satellite data is far more accessible to more boaters than it has ever been. The recent elimination of the 10mph limit for ROAM plans for high speed boats (10-30Kts) is a boon.

    I suspect plan changes may be related in part to massive changes in new Starlink Satellites that now offer direct to cell phone connectivity when operating outdoors. T-Mobile in WA State has already offered early adopters $10/Mo for Starlink connectivity (low speed data or voice) anywhere that cell towers don’t provide coverage. I imagine that changes will continue for some time but they will eventually settle down.

    Also in the PNW the market for New Residential and ROAM plans are now waitlisted as all available bandwidth for satellites is dedicated to the huge numbers of boaters and homes outside city areas. Starlink is launching ever more satellites to meet this tremendous demand.

    Until Amazon finally gets project Kuiper up and running in a serious way, Starlink is the only game in town, especially if you note the financials for KVH recently. The Kuiper website claims satellites will begin launching “early in 2025” with service rolling out “later in 2025”. If indeed this does come to pass then we will see still more changes. Cost for Kuiper antennas and data plans for home or boat remain unknown but must be competitive with Starlink offerings.

  5. Charles says:

    I’m not entirely sure that the last paragraph in the “Can I use starlink on the ocean” FAQ is outdated. the wording used to be Opt-in to “Mobile Priority” and now it is “Global Priority” which is more consistent with all the other uses of the word Priority.

    Only time will tell, but the opt-in is currently still in the app.

  6. Scott says:

    One other question you may have insight into, do you know if we will still be able to switch back to Roam Unlimited if we go to Global Priority for 3 months for a Bahamas trip? There is nothing on the Starlink website that addresses a switch like that.

  7. Bruce says:

    As you said, Ben, this is not a surprise given the company’s history. Perhaps it may also make people question how much they *really* need to be online and some might rediscover the pleasures of being disconnected when they cruise! (As well as the pleasure of *not* supporting the company’s founder, I might add.)

  8. Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

    Take note! There’s an update to the Roam details. Roam keeps opt-in data. Never let it be said this stuff is easy to follow! I have been able to confirm with Starlink that Roam keeps opt-in data and there aren’t any plans to change that. Now, we know how things can change, but good news for now.

    -Ben S.

  9. Michael Pail says:

    Thanks for the article. Quick clarification question though. My wife and I live on a sailboat that is nomadic and currently in the Caribbean, but we are circumnavigating. I don’t believe we have any option aside from the Global Priority plan, which, up until now was expensive at $250, but justifiable. With the new pricing, and if we don’t change our consumption habits (streaming), we are looking at $750/month which I cannot justify.
    Specifically to your point about two dishes and two plans, given that we are not in any one country’s territorial waters for very long, I’m not sure that that would work for us, especially given the challenge of creating a new account for a new “home” country on a continual basis.
    I think we are going to try to find an unlimited data SIM card plan for the regions in which we travel, insert that into our router and use that when possible.
    If you or anyone has a better idea, I’d love to hear it!

  10. Michael Pail says:

    We had a Regional Roam plan and were in Grenada in the fall. We received an email from Starlink that since we were out of our home country to 2 months, service would stop unless we returned to our home country. We have no plans for that so sure enough our service was cut off. Our only option was a Global priority plan, especially since Grenada is not an approved location.
    The terms also state that you can’t transfer equipment to a new account for 2-3 months. We are routinely off shore and would quickly run through the limits imposed to offshore and/or out of home country usage on a Roam plan.

    Not to be snarky, but why do you think I don’t need a Global Priority plan?

  11. Rob Waltemyer says:

    This is what the plan description/terms of service on Starlink’s site says about opt-in priority data:

    “ Starlink may permit Roam Unlimited users to opt-in to purchase Global Priority data. Such permission may be revoked by Starlink in its sole discretion at any time.”

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      This language combined with the frequency of changes sure leaves boaters in a tough position. Just because it works today, doesn’t mean it will tomorrow.

      -Ben S.

    • Michael Pail says:

      Well, he had roam regional unlimited this past fall and that’s what stopped working when we were in Grenada. We got an email that said service was paused and would resume when we returned to the US.

    • Charlie says:

      I cant find that in the T&Cd, can you put a link to it please?

      • Rob Waltemyer says:

        Section 4 of the TOS (for US customers) says “For a description of your Service Plan, please review the Service Plan Descriptions. The Service Plan Descriptions are incorporated herein by reference and form a part of this Agreement.”

        The Service Plan Descriptions are here: https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1728-44881-79

        The language about priority opt in is at the end of section 2.1.a.

        Starlink has been rewriting this stuff every week. Every time I go to the Starlink site I find something that has changed.

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