Starlink 2023, the ever-changing state of affairs

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

23 Responses

  1. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    SeaView even has a StarLink adapter for empty user-supplied 24-inch KVH or Intellian domes, and I guess that situation could apply to sat coms or sat TV. Ouch!

  2. Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

    Starlink website with Roam options

    Looks like I published this article just a day too early. Today, Starlink has renamed the RV service to Roam. I think that’s a great idea for clarity. Thus far, I don’t see any other differences but a more careful examination is in order.

    -Ben S.

  3. Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

    Roam ordering

    A more careful review shows you can now select continental roaming ($150/month) or global roaming ($200) but the text on the ordering page clearly states its for land use. So, it looks like there’s still a gap in the offerings for recreational boaters. For now, Roam is the best fit, but hope remains we will see an open oceans recreational offering.

    Roam terms

    -Ben S.

  4. Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

    One more comment from reading the terms and conditions more closely. I don’t previously recall seeing such a clear call out of use on land:

    “Starlink Roaming “Regional” Plan allows you to access Services at any land-based destination…”

    -Ben S.

    • Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

      Right, plus “Starlink Roam is for land use only.” as the first sentence of the Roam order page. Hard to get more prominent than that.

      But do you think it’s safe to presume that Roam service portable StarLinks will keep working in the places we typically anchor or moor?
      I’d guess that the StarLink built-in GPS is capable of very tight geofencing but doubt that they’d restrict use to less than, say, a mile from land, islands included. (There are now a lot of Starlinks on Maine island, incidentally.)

      Am I just being overly optimistic, again?

      • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

        My feeling (and it’s nothing more than MY feeling) is that Starlink has to error on the side of allowing a little bit of near-shore usage. If they try and get too fine with their geo-fencing, they’re likely to snare some land users in the fence occasionally. I suspect they will set the geofence borders a mile or two off shore. I suspect that will serve their needs of making a (hypothetical) future recreational marine product still clearly differentiated, but avoid excessive support tickets stemming from a waterfront location.

        -Ben S.

        • Dan says:

          It may be worth considering (and/or researching) the possibility that Roam is “restricted to land-use only” as a Starlink CYA for premature lat/long motor failure trying to keep up with the pitch/roll of a boat at anchor or underway. Just a thought I had thinking about the environmental factors of a boat at sea vs even an RV unit “improperly” used while underway on land. Like most Starlink “loopholes,” it might take someone trying it out till it doesn’t work anymore to find the answer!

        • Andy says:

          Technically they could geofence very tightly, as the dish has GNSS receiver I presume and database on what is land and what is not is accurate to few feet / meters.

          Good if they choose not to.

  5. BirderUSA says:

    Consider Viasat as an option. The cost is competitive with “normal” internet usage per month and works great in rural areas with the same site restrictions as Starlink. Plus Viasat because of competition has maintained their price but doubled their monthly usage pricing

    • Mo says:

      Viasat is nowhere near the performance of Starlink. I’ve had both. Viasat’s customer service is garbage. Their latency is in excess of 650msec, and their data allowances are ridiculously small. Furthermore, they throttle video bitrate. Starlink is an order of magnitude better than Viasat

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Viasat pricing plans

      Wow, I just went and looked at Viasat’s plans. While the plans are better than the last time I looked at them (a long time ago), I still don’t think they’re very competitive. A plan that delivers half the data of Starlink, 500 gb, at a maximum speed of 30 Mbps is $199.99 / month for the first three months, but then it jumps to $299.99. I’ve got to say, that’s pretty annoying stuff with the promotional price in bold and the actual price in the fine print.

      I’m not sure if Viasat would work in any sort of mobile application. But, based on their requirement for professional installation and a 30-inch by 28-inch dish, I think the only comparison that would make sense is to Starlink’s residential service. Starlink is going to deliver twice the priority data at 3-6 times the throughput and one-tenth the latency. That all adds up to a tough comparison for Viasat.

      -Ben S.

  6. AP says:

    Had starlink since 2021/2022. Prior to that had XploreNet which was crap. No other competitors exist right now as it’s time consuming and expensive to replicate what Starlink did.

  7. Martin Corkery says:

    Yes, they’re considerable confusion over the pricing for example Europe is €100 per month in Australia $50 a month

  8. Dave Fuller says:

    Thanks for what you do Ben. Very informative, and Johnny on the spot with the last minute changes from RV to Roam. Think I will continue to sit on the sideline and wait for more clarity.

  9. For those who work and need access, it’s pretty clear that Starlink is very useful. But for those heading off into the blue, please give some thought before you jump on the 24/7 bandwagon. There is a world that people are forgetting that is not tied to news and social media. In the past, it was an important reason people went to sea — to follow a different path.
    More about that here: https://www.cruisingworld.com/people/making-a-case-to-disconnect/
    It’s important to make conscious decisions.
    Fair winds,
    Bruce

  10. waporyzer says:

    I love to watch starlink satellites for a few days after launch. Magical view

  11. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Evidence is building that StarLink is tightening up on Terms of Service limitations like no use underway without an actual $2,500 in-motion antenna:

    https://loosecannon.substack.com/p/reality-check-for-starlink-boaters

    Some commenters on FaceBook Starlink for Boats are claiming it’s a scam, but others say that the portable SL antennas cause interference to other satellite coms when used in motion:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/starlinkonboats/posts/1288081648410504/

    Gotta wonder if they’ll next tighten up on “Starlink Roam is for land use only” and what that will mean near shore.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      It does indeed appear that Starlink is following the same playbook they’ve used previously. That is, to create demand for a new option by enforcing previously unenforced portions of the terms of service (TOS). In this case, the signs aren’t lining up perfectly, but I think a new, more affordable maritime option might be part of the reason for TOS enforcement.

      I’ll put together a post detailing the changes and breaking down what $250 a month now gets you.

      -Ben S.

    • Andy says:

      It is a real concern that SL causes interference to GEO sats. Thats the reason small dish needs to tilt _away_ from the GEO belt.

      If SpaceX does not take it seriously, then the relevant authorities will

  12. johnny lindstrom says:

    How far offshore will the service work since I believe the satellites needs to see the ground station and the vessel at the same time??
    Hi Ben!

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Johnny,

      Starlink uses laser inter-satellite links (ISL) to connect satellites to link satellites that can’t directly reach a ground station. Thus, they can provide coverage in open oceans hundreds or thousands of miles from land.

      -Ben S

  13. Ron de Moraes says:

    I received this yesterday. It seems to confirm what has been talked about, above. I probably received this because we used Starlink in the Abacos Islands and in motion from North Palm Beach there and back.

    “ [Action Required] Update your service plan
    Over the past 60 days, your Starlink has been used in areas that violate the terms and conditions of your service plan: your plan does not include service on the ocean. Starting as early as May 9th, 2023, you will be unable to connect to the internet on the ocean except to access your Starlink account where you can make updates to your account.

    To ensure uninterrupted service on the ocean, please take action before May 9th, 2023. The following options may be a good fit for you:

    Change Service Plan to “Mobile Priority – 50GB/1TB/5TB”: Plans with Mobile Priority data enable our fastest network speeds and can be used on the ocean and land, and in motion with the Flat High Performance Starlink. After using the included Mobile Priority data, you will continue to have unlimited Mobile service on inland coverage (including lakes and rivers) anywhere Starlink has service around the world. Additional Mobile Priority Data (with service on the ocean) can be purchased by the GB.
    Opt-in to Mobile Priority Data per GB: Opt-in to purchase Mobile Priority Data by the GB, if you are on a Mobile plan (“Roam”). This is a metered option – all data consumed when opted-in will be charged on your next monthly bill. You can opt-out at any time.

    How do I opt-in to additional data or change my service plan?

    On your account page online, click “Manage” under “Your Starlinks”, then select the “Mobile Priority” toggle or click “Change Service Plans”.
    On your account page on the App, click “Data Usage”, then select the “Mobile Priority” toggle or click “Manage Subscription”.

    You can read our updated Terms of Service for more details on our Mobile and Mobile Priority service plans. Please contact Support if you have additional questions.”

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