RMC Island 40, off the grid house boating

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

7 Responses

  1. Bill Bishop says:

    What a great getaway idea, in a great location Kate and I both loved the idea. The next one should be in the basin at the Bad River in Georgian Bay, Thanks.

  2. Scott E says:

    > The propane-powered heating, cooking, and refrigeration
    > systems, normally seen on RVs, are unfortunately not suitable
    > for a real boat, because they work well and fairly efficiently
    > (I think).
    But why not? Certainly propane has it’s risks, but properly equipped and with the right protection in place, that’s mitigated effectively. Our boat has propane cooking and refrigeration. There’s a propane sniffer tied to the solenoid, so it’s all pretty safe, really. It has a propane hot water heater too, though it died long ago (don’t worry, it’s hanging off the transom where there are no worries about CO or oxygen depletion – though that’s also why it died, from corrosion). Newer models, with appropriate sensors and no standing pilot, are quite safe and can be located in more hospitable locations. Yes, I know what the insurance companies say about all this, but I think with the right safeguards in place, and properly installed, it’s pretty darn safe. You are right about being efficient. We go a few months on a 20# cylinder.
    As far as load for the inverter goes, I don’t know anything about the unit on that boat, but if it’s like our Link2000/Freedom30 (same company – Xantrex) you can configure the amount of load required for the inverter to power up. Given that it’s a rental, perhaps it’s set to a high(ish) value?

  3. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks, Scott. Come to think of it, I have seen a cruising power boat with propane refrigeration and hot water. But they only felt comfortable leaving the hot water on when they were aboard and the reefer had a rather funky and space consuming exhaust system. The Island 40 has big hot water and reefer exhaust vents on either side, which were fine but hard to imagine on a sea going vessel. Also, I felt a slight discomfort hearing the hot water system light itself when I was semi asleep in the queen bed. But then again, she has a sniffer system and no bilge to fill with gas.
    That master stateroom, by the way, reminded me of a megayacht, what with the walk around queen bed, big opening windows on three sides, and the private forward deck area created by the high rounded bulwark. Very romantic!
    Bill, I think this concept works best when moored close to a boatyard or marina, which vastly simplifies all the maintenance, parking, etc. logistics. There are quite a few places that would work in Maine, and I’d love to see a few yards create their own style of “bed and dinghy” waterborne structure (that’s how the Island 40 is licensed by the Corps of Engineers, not as a boat).

  4. Bill Bishop says:

    Any air conditioning technologies available for usage in the south, that would be sans generator?

  5. Anonymous says:

    Propane refrigeration as implemented in RVs does not like heeling. That probably limits the marine market considerably as smaller boats (even power) would heel in a crosswind and bigger boats that wouldn’t heel typically use other refrigeration options.

  6. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Bill, At a boat show a couple of years ago I saw a supposedly super low power and compact dehumidifier based on some sort of piezo ceramic technology that would eventually “revolutionize marine air cooling”…but it was pre prototype even and I haven’t heard anything more about it.
    A proven technology I’m thinking of applying to Gizmo is an awning! I picture one extending forward from the flying bridge over the whole main cabin, keeping direct sun off it, and allowing all three hatches to catch air even during showers. It wouldn’t be for underway use, but I think it would help a lot, without drawing down batteries or having to run the friggin generator.

  7. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    I have a propane stove, and would welcome propane refrigeration. However, my sniffer goes off so frequently it’s a real pain in the neck. While the main cause of it going off (hydrogen from the battery while charging) wouldn’t be an issue on the hook, it seems to go off on inversions that set off my CO detector as well.

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