Sensar Marine Boat + Bilge Monitor: elegant monitoring simplified

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

17 Responses

  1. Filip (Norway) says:

    Most be developed by some amazing almost god like nation

  2. John B Livingston says:

    They should offer a second system, aimed at bigger, more complex boats. I’ve been a Siren Marine user for a long time, and I see things in this that I like a lot. The bilge monitor seems very well thought out, and I like the annual cell phone rate, which Siren Marine just raised. I also like the 30 day history, where SM limits you to a week. BUT I do very much prefer being able to tweak the alarm/alert settings. Give us a more tweakable system, with more data points, for, say, 50% more upfront, but the same low continuing fees, and I’d be very interested.

    • Capt Mike Aloeso says:

      Hi John, I too am a Siren user and just last week with their app update did I find out you I can pull historical reports from their fleet app site. Really from the beginning of the devices life

  3. Grant Jenkins says:

    Nice review, Ben. Glad you and I agree on the unsuitability of Scothlok connectors (don’t get the other Ben started on this!)
    Seems like an OK product, but the deal-killer for me is yet another subscription-based service. I’m sure that’s baked into their business model, but sorry, not interested. As long as I’ve made the investment in hardware and cellular connectivity for my boat, I expect any remote monitoring kits to allow connecting to an existing network as clients…

    • Tom Ashton says:

      Doing some research on this system, I think you may be missing the point on the data connection. This system will work for a long period of time with the battery switched OFF. Perfect for a mooring, or a spot with there is no shore power, (trailer for theft etc.). From the research Ive done it’s has the lowest airtime cost and 5 year warranty. If you don’t like the scotch lock wire connectors there are numerous other inexpensive waterproof connectors available. Saw it at New England Boat Show. Looks like a solid system.

      • Grant Jenkins says:

        Good point Tom, it wasn’t clear to me on the first read that this is targeted to vessels with no power available – as the 40 day battery would suggest. In that scenario, then onboard cellular makes sense, as any existing WiFi network would likely be unpowered as well.
        That said, including wireless client capability would likely add little to the cost, and broaden the market to anyone who already has a “connected boat”. But my guess is they’re really committed to the subscription model for revenue…

    • Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

      You baited me, Grant! But let’s be clear that the Scotchlok’s I’ve favored are the ones that include waterproof grease insulation, not the dry splicer discussed above. And the ones I used when installing my EMU-1 are still fine more than a decade later:

      https://panbo.com/3m-scotchloks-is-my-love-so-wrong/

      • Grant Jenkins says:

        Ha! Sorry Ben, couldn’t resist. And yes, I understand all Scotchloks are not created equal. That said, if I’m trying to introduce a new product in the marine industry, he last thing I want to include in the box is something that suggests I don’t understand the environment or accepted industry practices…

    • Capt Mike Aloeso says:

      Hi Grant, I do agree, but you may not like the reality that hardware manufactures will require subscriptions as long as they are worried about end customer data integrity. These systems are closed not to be difficult but to be secure. The last thing these companies want is for your wifi on your boat to be hacked and now your monitoring system fails to alert you. I would be warry of wifi based or “open” network systems.

      • Grant Jenkins says:

        Thanks Mike. I’m not an IT expert, but someone hacking into my boat’s WiFi is quite near the bottom of my list of worries. Perhaps if I were a billionaire with a mega-yacht, I’d be more concerned. Pretty sure no one really cares how many times my bilge pump cycles on. Many of the major marine manufacturers products will in fact join an existing network as a client. Anyhow, I’m sure it’s a good fit for some folks. I just don’t need yet another subscription for something I already pay for. Cheers,

  4. John B Livingston says:

    I forgot to mention that I like the trip logging this offers. I often forget to start and/or stop that on Navionics, and having it done automatically would be a plus. Siren Marine does not offer a log, really. It will show your track, as long as there’s cell service, but there’s no speed or distance data.

  5. The timing of this couldn’t be better. I’m keeping my boat 80 miles away this season instead of 8, and I can see a lot of peace of mind in having this on board. The fact it has an internal battery is what is most exciting though because I don’t have shore power on my little center console.

  6. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    So another basic off boat monitoring system is about to release, as I just learned from the Miami Innovation Awards:

    https://oversea.boats/

    It’s completely self-powered, for years on AA batteries, but I note that its bilge sensor only monitors pump activity, not water level. Also it only has an annual subscription at twice Sensar’s. I look forward to hearing Mr Stein’s take, as he’s actually seen it demonstrated.

  7. Bob Durant says:

    I saw the Oversea at MIBS. They were making a lot of claims of performance with AA batteries. Also they have innumerable sensors claiming they reach 1,000 ft. Anyone who has had these systems (I have) knows that wireless sensors come with false alarms and alerts. I’m always weary of companies making too good to be true claims and taking your money before they are available.

  8. John B Livingston says:

    I, too, am not a fan of wireless sensors, particularly when it comes to bilge monitoring. The bilge in my Beneteau 411 is very shallow. I had a situation with a low but steady leak after installing a Jet Thruster pump in cockpit compartment. The Siren Marine wireless sensor has a low enough sample rate that it missed a great many pump cycles. I talked to SM about it, and they said some of the low sampling was due to how frequently it could upload to the cloud. They suggested a hard-wired sensor. I hooked that up and suddenly, what looked like a red spike on the chart every hour or so, became a wall of red. I find the battery bank wireless monitors tend to read low, and I’ve talked to other users who’ve experienced the same. Hard-wired remains the most accurate and reliable, as far as I’m concerned.

  9. Peter Kiley says:

    Wow. That is a complete review. I’ll be much more brief. The Sensar unit recently saved my brand new Ranger Tug R-31. As a boat owner that lives on the coast of Maine but keeps a boat in Seattle (just until I head for Alaska) the monitoring it provides me is amazing. And when BOTH your brand new bilge pumps fail (thanks RULE) and you know you have an immediate issue you can react from 3000 miles away quickly. I’ll say it again Sensar saved my boat. Thank you.

  10. Tor says:

    I have had a Sensar Marine installed since they came out a few years ago in Norway. Key takeaways:

    – My insurance premium is lowered more than the monthly subscription cost of the system, because I have bilge monitoring, and theft monitoring. Just tell your insurance provider about the system and they will reduce the premium.
    – I have saved my batteries from being discharged about 20 times due to me forgetting to turn off the power (hustle with kids and disembarking everyone/everything makes me forget), and the system notifies me via SMS/app-notifications.
    – I caught the workshop mechanics joyriding my boat for an “extended” test ride at high G’s and speeds. Could also be used to check that my kids drive the boat responsibly if they borrow it someday.

    And most importantly, I live 3 hours away from my boat, and it’s nice to know how it’s doing. If SM alerts me to an issue I can call a friend who lives closer and check on it.

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