Mastervolt MLi 12/1250 premium system integraged LiFePO4 battery

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

9 Responses

  1. Lewis Graham says:

    I personally feel this battery should be disqualified from serious consideration. Failing the discharge test under your normal operating mode test conditions (think inverter application) is a big red flag. What other specs have been fudged? Unacceptable for a super premium battery. It certainly goes to show that paying more does necessarily give you more.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Lewis,

      I don’t disagree that failing to meet rated specs is an issue. But, I’m perhaps more willing to cut Mastervolt some slack than you are because this particular spec is so very high. The battery will work just fine at 1c indefinitely. It works at almost 2c for 8 minutes. I think Mastervolt simply overshot with their rating and it was a rating that doesn’t really gain you that much. 2c means depleting the battery in just half an hour. Frankly, I think designing a system on a boat with that type of workload is questionable design.

      So, all I can do is raise the issue. How potential buyers see that issue and how it influences their purchasing decisions is up to them.

      -Ben S.

  2. thierry says:

    my boat is fully equipped with Mastervolt, the battery works fine. I did only one big error when migrating to Lithium. The 70 amps has very noisy fans and they run continuously. My advice to change the battery from the shore, install 2 Lithium 220V chargers in parallel, by doing so, you could select é20V Lithium chargers without noisy fan

  3. Juppe says:

    I think Mastervolt is quiet about using their Lithium batteries for starting is that there is a big change you burn the starter. 12V starter motors are actually rated for 9V. This is because of the current they pull and the internal resistance of a lead acid battery causes the voltage to drop to about 9V. Lithium batteries have low internal resistance, so the voltage doesn’t drop that much. So now your 9V starter gets 12V to work with. This is also why those small USB rechargeable emergency starter packs work so well.

  4. Dennis says:

    All the electronics seem to be well thought through, but what really surprises me with such an expensive battery is that the cells are from 2021 and that they are using 8 cells for a 100Ah instead of 4. More potential for imbalances. Maybe that’s the reason why the battery couldn’t supply the specified current?

    • Juppe says:

      Parallel cells don’t need balancing, they are balanced by definition as they are parallel connected so always on the same voltage level. The reason for using 8 cells is simple; they also have a 24V version so they want to use the same cells and general structure for both 12V and 24V batteries.

  5. Bill A says:

    You can use the USB interface to program Czone components. Just use the included Masterbus to Czone “dongle” that comes with a Czone device. Connect the “dongle” to the USB interface and then plug it into the Czone N2k network. Download the Czone programming tools, and bob is your uncle.

  6. I have a question concerning the mechanical Tyco contactor. Is this battery considered to be Ignition Protected? Can it be located in the engine room of a gasoline powered boat?

    In general, are LiFePO4 batteries Ignition Protected?

    • Juppe says:

      Ignition protection is not mentioned in the specs, but since the contactor is inside an IP67 housing I guess it should pass.

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