Ode to Panbots, far flung & obsessed

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

5 Responses

  1. Arnie says:

    That AP100DL looks in mint condition. No small feat for a piece of electronics that is at least 21 years old.

  2. Microship says:

    Arnie… it will be going on eBay once fully extracted. <grin>
    What is depressing, however, is the realization that someday all this shiny new stuff will also go on eBay… probably for the equivalent of a few cents on the dollar.

  3. Russ says:

    OK, I’ll bite and feed the topic du jour. Think obsession.
    I think I now understand the basis for the misunderstanding about the NN3D vector charts. Skipping the very large question of how the charts are presented, your perspective was that it’s the US government’s problem since they make the S57 charts. My perspective is that Navionics, Transas, and C-Map make vector charts from raster charts and the resultant charts are much better than the S57 charts we see in NN3D. My expectations were created by those vector charts. I don’t understand why state of the art electronics and software should be married to mediocre vector charts.
    I could understand if these charts were the “free” charts and then I could purchase better. But it’s a closed system, I can’t purchase better.
    However, it’s probably moot since I’ll be leaving the country in November. There won’t be any charts at all for Bermuda, so nothing to complain about there. And then it will be the MapMedia 3D charts for the rest of the world.

  4. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Russ, I know we’ve been through this before, offline, but for the sake of lurkers: what you’re looking at here in the States are MapMedia 3D charts. Here they’re based on NOAA rasters and S57 data; elsewhere they’ll be based on other H.O. rasters or S57 data derived from Navionics’ own vector format.
    In short, I suggest that you don’t presume what the foreign 3D charts look like until you see them for yourself. Vector data can really look different from one presentation to another.

  5. Kees says:

    How true that is. I live in the Netherlands and just upgraded from Nobeltec 9 (Transas based) to Nobeltec 10 (C-MAP MAX PRO based). Boy, what a difference.
    Most of it a VERY definite improvement, some of it not so good. I’ll need another weekend on the boat to figure out how to possibly overcome the ‘worse’ bits.
    As Ben states, both sets of data come from the same source (in this case the Dutch Hydrographic office of the Navy). What they do with it is very different.

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