ABYC Examines the 48-volt boat

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  1. This will definitely be an interesting conversation to watch develop. Having come from the computing world long ago, and large data centers with 48 volts, the protection and regulations around working with that sort of power has always been a challenge.

    Now that it’s found its way onto boats, and combined with some of the impressive discharge rates from LiFePO4 batteries, safety while working on these systems is going to be more important than ever.

    I already use insulated tools and have for many years, along with a decent amount of personal protective gear, but I see a lot of other folks who are still treating these more modern systems rather casually in my opinion.

    We also still have issues with a lot of vendor provided fuse blocks, bus bars, and other equipment which is only rated to 48 volts, when, as you point out, the charging voltage can be as high as 56 volts. I know some vendors have been working to address this.

    Any way you cut it, it is still early days for 48 volts in terms of how standards and safety are concerned. I hope those catch up quickly to allow for safe installation and use of a great voltage and energy dense solution!

  2. No doubt there are significant benefits for power distribution in an age where we are moving towards replacing all energy on our boats with DC. A 3kW inverter is now entry-level if cooking with electricity, as we are doing now.

    It comes with its challenges though. Protecting connected electronics against voltage transients becomes exponentially harder to do as the system voltage goes up. Texas Instruments has a nice video https://www.ti.com/video/4923175435001 – also a must-watch if you’re struggling with insomnia!

    I’m curious to see if a 12V bus will be retained for data and navigation systems. Finding protection components (TVS diodes, capacitors, MOSFETs) to deal with transients in 12v systems (up to 150V pulse) is hard enough. Good luck with protecting your device from a 600V pulse in a 48V system.

  3. John Payne says:

    Thanks, a thought-provoking article with some interesting viewpoints. As someone who is both HV qualified and having worked extensively on both high voltage DC and AC on commercial and offshore vessels perhaps regulation makers should review rules, regulations and design practices that currently exist in the commercial maritime space. Whilst on the safety aspect you should never work on live systems of any voltage, from 12V to 48V and especially AC systems. It is a fundamental safety rule ashore and equally so afloat. This does not apply when circuit testing however that also requires competence given the frequent incidents that occur.

    As an ABYC member and marine electrical professional I am very interested in how the 48V era progresses. I did include coverage in The Marine Electrical and Electronics Bible 4th Edition given it is now entering mainstream boat installations and I have been involved with a several challenging installations already.

    I am able to understand the rationale behind the NFPA lowering the threshold to 50 volts as anything workplace is a response no doubt to some incidents. It is however inconsistent with the IEC definitions and what is termed Safety or Separated Extra Low Voltage (SELV) systems. This means that voltages under 60 volts are classified as SELV. To clarify, this is defined as an electrical system where the voltage cannot exceed SELV under normal conditions and under single fault conditions. It also states that if you were to touch the circuit under normal conditions or during a single fault condition you would not sustain an electrical shock. Context is everything and the National Fire Protection Association NFPA 70e Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration are not necessarily applicable to general boat installations. The ABYC requirement for safety labelling of service points over 50V (up to 60VDC) is a sensible compromise. I am intrigued by Bob Tates pre-charging ideas and the context on which that is premised.

    Steve and Gerhards comments were interesting and I would add that on the installations I have been involved with all the navigation and non 48V equipment were supplied through a separate distribution panel using a DC-DC converter. For navigation electronics these are mostly 12VDC on a separate panel also through a converter. The subject of transient protection is a good point, and there are a number of high quality suppression devices that can be installed. Balmar have alternator protection units that address this issue and quality DC-DC converters have very good protection. The comment about properly rated circuit devices such as common busbars is a very valid one and Blue Seas and others are rated at maximum 48V, usually the dielectric strength of the insulation is the defining factor and most are made from Glass Reinforced Thermoplastics to UL standards.

  4. Harry Keith Harry Keith says:

    Very good article, raising important safety issues.

    The article states “Compared with 12- or 24-volt systems, these higher-capacity systems have clear advantages: greater power, greater efficiency, less weight, lower fuel costs and, most compellingly, the potential elimination of a genset from the boat.”

    A fundamental fact of batteries is they only STORE energy, they do not create energy. A 48V battery brings significant advantages, but does not substantially change capacity (a 1kWh 48V battery is exactly the same size/cost as a 1KWh 12V battery). Efficiency differences exist, but at very small differences. Wire sizing is a huge benefit.

    Larger, better batteries can provide more run time, and for boats that spend every night on shore powe, that may suffice. But for off-grid boats, the power has to be generated and the battery type, size, or voltage does not change the energy balance (energy in must equal energy out). Energy comes from solar, wind, towed generators, alternators — and for large energy users, a generator is mandatory.

    I sail a 43′ boat with propane cooking and no A/C (and no generator). I have 1kW solar. I have to run my engine for battery charge most days. Reconfiguring my cells to 48V (with associated equipment changes) would not somehow let me cook and cool on battery without needing a generator.

    • John Stokes says:

      Hi Harry,

      48v alternators put out surprisingly high charge power. My 12v boat has a 48v house bank, alternator and inverter/charger. The alternator puts out 7kw for hours. My 5kw generator does 3kw. I’m just guessing that’s what the article is getting at.

      The 48v storage and charging means I have the option to utilize AC cooking appliances as needed. If I’m anchorage hopping, all I need is the alternator. If I sit for many days at anchor, I use the generator. Generator is nice for redundancy, but carrying spare alternator, belts and regulator probably may make more sense that installing a genset.

  5. John Renko says:

    What ridiculous overly risk averse rubbish. This is just an attempt to force boat owners to use ridiculously expensive HV systems and super expensive contractors.
    I can personally testify that 48v is perfectly safe to work on live. I’ve been zapped dozens of times without any ill effect.
    Over obsession with safety & trying to eliminate all risk kills more people than it saves.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      John,

      You may feel it’s overly risk averse and that’s fine. But Tim’s information is certainly not rubbish. First, the logic that goes something like, “I’ve been zapped dozens of times and haven’t died so this is crap” is not how any marine professional should operate. I’ve been zapped by 120 volts more times than I’d like to count but don’t advocate the experience. Sorry if reasonable precautions are problematic for you but I’ll stand by the advice of the experts.

      -Ben S.

      • Harry Keith Harry Keith says:

        I know this is a little stale now, but to add to Ben’s point.

        First, defining “high voltage” is not done by ABYC or marine professionals, and they aren’t driving it for profit reasons. It’s defined by NEC and OSHA, for ALL workers throughout the country. Their goal is to save lives — which to a degree runs counter to the employer’s goal to save money. It’s certainly not driven by profits!

        Second, the 50V definition has no say over how YOU do work on YOUR boat. There are no national laws preventing you from working on an 800V electric car with no protection beyond a nice conductive layer of sweat.

        Finally, there are few “parts” impacts. There are some, for sure — the classic ATC blade fuse is only rated to 32V. and that by itself creates problems with a “pure” 48V system (but most 48V boats run a 12V bus for all those little loads anyway).

        The bulk of the cost impact of a 48V system is keeping the people you pay alive to work again tomorrow.

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