IBEX 2024: Solid State Marine’s solid state lithium batteries

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

11 Responses

  1. Starting an e-propulsion install shortly that will use the SSM 48v batteries kitted to 96v nominal. The power density is what drove the decision to use them, along with endorsement by the drive manufacturer. Will be an interesting winter project.

  2. Harold Howell says:

    Is there an internal BMS or any battery to battery communication for balancing?

  3. Annonomous says:

    The problem with Solid State battery cells is not necessarily the technology, but that the only company who currently makes them is in the process of being thrown off the Nasdaq – Elecjet Powercells is owned by Alpine4 holdings, who has lost 97% of its share price in the past month. Not good if you need to guarantee supply.

  4. Hi Ben! It certainly looks like the long-awaited lithium replacement for the LA start battery. The starter certainly doesn’t care about 16+V under charge, and charging would be easily supplied by a DC-DC charger (as we have now). allowing charge down to -4 F is nice, too!
    I looked at a couple of my 12V equipment manuals, and 16.8V is definitely outside the range (almost everything is 13.8V nominal, +/- 15%) though NMEA2K is “16V”. I guess you could put a couple 100a diodes in series in the load buss, but that seems wasteful. Better would be to require a DC-DC converter for the electronics that are sensitive to voltage (fortunately, our MFD/Radar is not).

  5. Grant Jenkins says:

    HI Ben – interesting article. One sentence caught my attention – “…typically when we talk about solid-state in technology we mean a device with no moving parts…”
    I know you weren’t around when vacuum tubes were still in use, but the term solid state originally referred to semi-conductor based designs (transistors back then), as opposed to tubes. It really had nothing to do with moving parts. As virtually everything is semi-conductor based now, the term is seldom seen. Perhaps that’s why a battery company decided to apply it to their product…..

  6. Daniels Frank says:

    What are the prices for the 48volt in different amps? I see the 12 volt prices but not the 48 volt prices. Is the 48 volt Bluetooth capable? Thanks so much

  7. Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

    Grant, the most common place I see it now is with regards to relays. We often see relays described as solid state for those that aren’t using a coil and armature to make and break contact. Additionally, in my old world of IT infrastructure, solid state was the term of choice to distinguish between hard drives with spinning, magnetic platters and semi conductor based options.

    -Ben S.

  8. Friz says:

    What 120 vac charger do I use? Will my regulated 70 amp alternator charge these. I have a Victron DC to DC charger. I am interested in the 12vdc battery. Thanks

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Fritz,

      You will need to make sure that whatever charger you use is compatible with Solid State’s higher nominal voltage for their 12 volt equivalent batteries. I think that will be challenging. I’d suggest contacting Solid State Marine and seeing what recommendations they have for charging.

      -Ben S.

      • Though the SSM battery charge figures are a little higher than normal LifePO4, they (SSM) seem totally comfortable with conventional Lithium capable chargers. We are doing a setup at 96v that will be made up of 4 of their big 48v batteries, and they are recommending that we use NOCO GX Industrial series chargers. When you read into the spec of the GX4820 there is some head-scratching to be done. The charger has no “float” mode. It’s charge profile is out of the norm, but we will be using them as one of my primary concerns is not providing an avenue for any of the vendors involved (Elco and SSM) to pass the buck on responsibility. If I did not harbor that concern I would likely go the route of using a DeltaQ charger and have it programmed exactly to the SSM spec. There are not a lot of 48v chargers out there that will fit into the space limitations we have in this project. But the very short version of all this is…. SSM seems to like NOCO.
        However…. if I were running a 12v SSM battery, I would most likely use either a Victron or Mastervolt charger programmed exactly to the SSM spec. Just not an option for me for the current job.

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