Garmin announces Signal VHF radios, Vesper’s DNA lives on

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

13 Responses

  1. I am very happy to hear about the new Signal lineup. Like you, I loved the software defined radio and very innovative features in the Cortex when it came out, and my review from almost 6 years ago still has a lot of traction with folks looking for a new radio. I personally still use the Cortex as my primary radio and AIS device aboard Aruna, even with it’s frayed cables and funky handsets. It’s hard to find another radio that allows for listening to so much at once, replaying quickly, and an interface that is intuitive and easy to use. I look forward to seeing the new product as soon as it becomes available!

  2. Allen Jones says:

    Its about time! There goes another boat buck! Thanks for the great article.

  3. Moose says:

    ive been happy with the cortex range, its been by far the easiest AIS transponder to set up. i think the handset works super well. we havnt had many clients partake in the vessel monitoring/switching side of things they often have anothe brand on board for that. but its still pretty cool. i am happy to see that these bring the price point down a little. they look pretty nifty too. 😀

    moose

  4. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    I was a beta tester for Garmin Cortex V2 software in 2023, and wrote about it as part of this advanced VHF roundup:

    https://panbo.com/em-traks-premium-nexus-vhf-ais-mob-system-will-compete-with-improved-garmin-cortex-icom-m510-evo/

    I’m still using the same Cortex on Gizmo and will stick with “Indeed, after a great many hours of testing Cortex v2 on board Gizmo last season, I think that it now offers the most sophisticated marine VHF ever seen and heard, and by a wide margin!”

    So I think it’s great that Garmin has incorporated the same, maybe even better, SDR features in the new Signal line. But also sad that so many of the Vesper Cortex features were left out, like the advanced AIS target plotting with NMEA data multiplexing to the Cortex Onboard app, outstanding anchor watch via hardware and/or app, wireless mics, built in heading sensor, etc.

    Vesper saw the many functions that a VHF/AIS could serve, often when other electronics were shut down. But then again, we don’t really know yet all that the Garmin Signal can do, and certainly not what added features and/or hardware is in the works. So looking forward to Ben S testing.

  5. Grant Jenkins says:

    Nice review, Ben. Personally I prefer the redundancy of a stand-alone AIS, but it’s a nice looking radio regardless. I’m not sure what’s gained by eliminating the wired voice connection for the mic – if it still needs wires for power anyhow, what’s the point? One more failure point if the RF signal between Mic and radio gets disrupted. Seems like more “tech” for the sake of tech, instead of a useful feature or improved reliability….

  6. Mic Fite says:

    It’s good to see that Vesper’s innovations have not gone to waste.
    No wired mic? That makes me nervous. There are so many sources of potential RF interference on a boat and in the environment.
    A) Will there be a companion app equivalent to Vesper’s Watchmate? The Watchmate app has the best anchor watch functionality for a mobile device, IMHO.
    B) I’m on a sailboat with the VHF radio mounted below, and a remote mic with built-in display in the cockpit. So, the RM100 doesn’t work for me. It’d be nice if there were a similar compact remote mic for us sailors in the future product plans. I’d settle for limited functionality. The remote mic’s primary purpose for me is to hail and respond to VHF traffic. (and $700 for a remote? Ouch!)

  7. I also have been waiting, and a bit worried about losing features on the next evolution of cortex. I am a bit disappointed that monitoring is gone, now I need to find a solution for that if I have to replace my current unit. Likewise my radio mount is not easy to see from the helm, so I enjoyed setting the handset on a cradle I could pivot and easily manipulate. Perhaps this will move to the MFD itself? (Collision avoidance, changing channels etc) Look forward to digging in more, but not a home run for me.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Matthew,

      I think the architecture makes it clear that Garmin has all sorts of options for what hardware they produce. The RM 100 is basically a full remote. Why couldn’t that full remote be of a form factor more similar to the Cortex handsets? I think it could. The big question is just whether Garmin sees a large enough market to produce a new black box style remote.

      -Ben S.

  8. Instantchow says:

    I have recently created a Cortex Users Group Wiki and Discord server. It looks like this new Signal model uses the same software base and interface between the handsets and the hub. A small group of enthusiast owners have gotten together to understand all the underlying interfaces of the system. It’s quite powerful, but there doesn’t seem to one definitive location that describes all of its features, documented and not. If this steps on some toes here at Panbo I apologize.

    Vesper Cortex Users Group
    https://cortexusers.instantchow.com/
    https://discord.gg/5rVbJhb9

    All Garmin Vesper Cortex users are welcome to join both the Wiki and Chat. We are just getting started so feel free to reach out to us and make an introduction!

    That said, a lof the the headaches of the Cortex system were the handsets. Funny you mention the intercom feature, i recall seeing that on the roadmap before Garmin took over. Guess what, there’s a capability flag for an intercom already in the APK files for the handset…

  9. The documentation for the Signal VHF radios themselves is now up as well.

    So they fixed the stupid design decision in Cortex to have radio traffic over WiFi, this is probably using BT or ANT. They also added wired ethernet. All good. The “look & feel” is improved, has a sort of “Fusion” feel?

    But now for the downsides:

    – No anchor watch
    – No AIS alarm profiles
    – No AIS vessel list
    – No monitoring
    – No built in compass
    – Limited control over NMEA 2000 output
    – No cloud connection for monitoring or anchor watch
    – Not a black box so not a drop in replacement

    For my installation the problem starts with the considerable depth of the device. It makes it impossible to install in many sailboats in the traditional place which is somewhere near the companionway. You’d have to shell out for a RM100 to fix this but then you end up with a useless display you need to put somewhere.

    The anchor watch is less critical to me now that B&G/Simrad have an even better one, but still I don’t get why you would drop this unless they really don’t care about sailboats.

    And there you have it I think: Cortex for the short-distance small console style motorboat. Just so those people don’t need to install two boxes.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      I forwarded this comment chain on to Garmin for some comments and here are a few of their responses. Overall, I don’t think they’re disagreeing with anything Kees concluded. However, I do think there is a certain implication to the fact that this is a refresh of their console mount VHF radios and not a replacement of Cortex. I think (and this is just my speculation) that might be coming next.

      So they fixed the stupid design decision in Cortex to have radio traffic over WiFi, this is probably using BT or ANT. They also added wired ethernet. All good. The “look & feel” is improved, has a sort of “Fusion” feel?

      Garmin: The link between the Fist Mic and Head Unit is proprietary (but correct that it’s not over WiFi).

      We would say the look and feel is more Garmin. 🙂

      But now for the downsides:

      – No anchor watch
      – No AIS alarm profiles
      – No AIS vessel list

      Garmin: There is a AIS vessel list. You can interact with it or the AIS plotter to view information about an AIS target or initiate a DSC call. There are AIS alarm tuning options for collision alarms but we have removed the concept of profiles. Instead we have provided a quick shortcut to silence collision alarms from the controls panel (slides down from the top of the screen). This effectively provides the two most common profiles we found were actually being used: marina (off) and underway (on).


      – No monitoring
      – No built in compass
      – Limited control over NMEA 2000 output
      – No cloud connection for monitoring or anchor watch
      – Not a black box so not a drop in replacement

      Garmin: Yes, the Garmin Signal VHF400 and VHF220 are not intended or designed to be a replacement for Cortex. Signal is Garmin’s new premium fixed mount VHF offering and really should be compared with the VHF215 AIS it replaces and other premium fixed mount VHFs from competitors in the market. The VHF400 is designed to compliment the modern helm so will always output AIS, DSC and GPS data over NMEA2000 for use by an MFD.


      For my installation the problem starts with the considerable depth of the device. It makes it impossible to install in many sailboats in the traditional place which is somewhere near the companionway. You’d have to shell out for a RM100 to fix this but then you end up with a useless display you need to put somewhere.

      Garmin: Given the overall size of the unit, this feedback is a little surprising to us. We did choose to prioritize dash space, so focused on getting the dimensions of the front panel as small as we could while also providing a large color display interface. This meant a small compromise on depth, but the depth is actually still shallower than most premium VHFs in market. There are many spots around a sail boat that this can be mounted. The flexiblity of the fist mic placement also opens up installation options in and around a compainon way that would normally be too difficult.

      The anchor watch is less critical to me now that B&G/Simrad have an even better one, but still I don’t get why you would drop this unless they really don’t care about sailboats.

      And there you have it I think: Cortex for the short-distance small console style motorboat. Just so those people don’t need to install two boxes.

      Garmin: While AnchorWatch is not included, this is not a sign that we have written off our sailboat customers. We believe there are a ton of features in the Garmin Signal VHF400/220 which will assist all boaters, make their journeys safer and their VHF easier and more enjoyable to use.

      • Mafkees says:

        Thanks a lot for sharing this. I am hoping to see a new concept similar to the Cortex coming then from Garmin soon.

  10. Hi Ben!
    According to that RM100 manual, the fist mic connection is 2.4 Ghz – I would assume the same as wireless mice, etc. The same manual reveals the ability to connect an external speaker through the “Power/Audio” connector.
    The depth would also be an issue for us, as our helm VHF is mounted in a console with limited depth. Getting our current IC-M506 in was a tight squeeze!

    Hartley
    S?V Atsa

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