Garmin announces Signal VHF radios, Vesper’s DNA lives on

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

18 Responses

  1. I am very happy to hear about the new Signal lineup. Like you, I loved the software defined radio and very innovative features in the Cortex when it came out, and my review from almost 6 years ago still has a lot of traction with folks looking for a new radio. I personally still use the Cortex as my primary radio and AIS device aboard Aruna, even with it’s frayed cables and funky handsets. It’s hard to find another radio that allows for listening to so much at once, replaying quickly, and an interface that is intuitive and easy to use. I look forward to seeing the new product as soon as it becomes available!

  2. Allen Jones says:

    Its about time! There goes another boat buck! Thanks for the great article.

  3. Moose says:

    ive been happy with the cortex range, its been by far the easiest AIS transponder to set up. i think the handset works super well. we havnt had many clients partake in the vessel monitoring/switching side of things they often have anothe brand on board for that. but its still pretty cool. i am happy to see that these bring the price point down a little. they look pretty nifty too. 😀

    moose

  4. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    I was a beta tester for Garmin Cortex V2 software in 2023, and wrote about it as part of this advanced VHF roundup:

    https://panbo.com/em-traks-premium-nexus-vhf-ais-mob-system-will-compete-with-improved-garmin-cortex-icom-m510-evo/

    I’m still using the same Cortex on Gizmo and will stick with “Indeed, after a great many hours of testing Cortex v2 on board Gizmo last season, I think that it now offers the most sophisticated marine VHF ever seen and heard, and by a wide margin!”

    So I think it’s great that Garmin has incorporated the same, maybe even better, SDR features in the new Signal line. But also sad that so many of the Vesper Cortex features were left out, like the advanced AIS target plotting with NMEA data multiplexing to the Cortex Onboard app, outstanding anchor watch via hardware and/or app, wireless mics, built in heading sensor, etc.

    Vesper saw the many functions that a VHF/AIS could serve, often when other electronics were shut down. But then again, we don’t really know yet all that the Garmin Signal can do, and certainly not what added features and/or hardware is in the works. So looking forward to Ben S testing.

  5. Grant Jenkins says:

    Nice review, Ben. Personally I prefer the redundancy of a stand-alone AIS, but it’s a nice looking radio regardless. I’m not sure what’s gained by eliminating the wired voice connection for the mic – if it still needs wires for power anyhow, what’s the point? One more failure point if the RF signal between Mic and radio gets disrupted. Seems like more “tech” for the sake of tech, instead of a useful feature or improved reliability….

  6. Mic Fite says:

    It’s good to see that Vesper’s innovations have not gone to waste.
    No wired mic? That makes me nervous. There are so many sources of potential RF interference on a boat and in the environment.
    A) Will there be a companion app equivalent to Vesper’s Watchmate? The Watchmate app has the best anchor watch functionality for a mobile device, IMHO.
    B) I’m on a sailboat with the VHF radio mounted below, and a remote mic with built-in display in the cockpit. So, the RM100 doesn’t work for me. It’d be nice if there were a similar compact remote mic for us sailors in the future product plans. I’d settle for limited functionality. The remote mic’s primary purpose for me is to hail and respond to VHF traffic. (and $700 for a remote? Ouch!)

  7. I also have been waiting, and a bit worried about losing features on the next evolution of cortex. I am a bit disappointed that monitoring is gone, now I need to find a solution for that if I have to replace my current unit. Likewise my radio mount is not easy to see from the helm, so I enjoyed setting the handset on a cradle I could pivot and easily manipulate. Perhaps this will move to the MFD itself? (Collision avoidance, changing channels etc) Look forward to digging in more, but not a home run for me.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Matthew,

      I think the architecture makes it clear that Garmin has all sorts of options for what hardware they produce. The RM 100 is basically a full remote. Why couldn’t that full remote be of a form factor more similar to the Cortex handsets? I think it could. The big question is just whether Garmin sees a large enough market to produce a new black box style remote.

      -Ben S.

  8. Instantchow says:

    I have recently created a Cortex Users Group Wiki and Discord server. It looks like this new Signal model uses the same software base and interface between the handsets and the hub. A small group of enthusiast owners have gotten together to understand all the underlying interfaces of the system. It’s quite powerful, but there doesn’t seem to one definitive location that describes all of its features, documented and not. If this steps on some toes here at Panbo I apologize.

    Vesper Cortex Users Group
    https://cortexusers.instantchow.com/
    https://discord.gg/5rVbJhb9

    All Garmin Vesper Cortex users are welcome to join both the Wiki and Chat. We are just getting started so feel free to reach out to us and make an introduction!

    That said, a lof the the headaches of the Cortex system were the handsets. Funny you mention the intercom feature, i recall seeing that on the roadmap before Garmin took over. Guess what, there’s a capability flag for an intercom already in the APK files for the handset…

  9. The documentation for the Signal VHF radios themselves is now up as well.

    So they fixed the stupid design decision in Cortex to have radio traffic over WiFi, this is probably using BT or ANT. They also added wired ethernet. All good. The “look & feel” is improved, has a sort of “Fusion” feel?

    But now for the downsides:

    – No anchor watch
    – No AIS alarm profiles
    – No AIS vessel list
    – No monitoring
    – No built in compass
    – Limited control over NMEA 2000 output
    – No cloud connection for monitoring or anchor watch
    – Not a black box so not a drop in replacement

    For my installation the problem starts with the considerable depth of the device. It makes it impossible to install in many sailboats in the traditional place which is somewhere near the companionway. You’d have to shell out for a RM100 to fix this but then you end up with a useless display you need to put somewhere.

    The anchor watch is less critical to me now that B&G/Simrad have an even better one, but still I don’t get why you would drop this unless they really don’t care about sailboats.

    And there you have it I think: Cortex for the short-distance small console style motorboat. Just so those people don’t need to install two boxes.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      I forwarded this comment chain on to Garmin for some comments and here are a few of their responses. Overall, I don’t think they’re disagreeing with anything Kees concluded. However, I do think there is a certain implication to the fact that this is a refresh of their console mount VHF radios and not a replacement of Cortex. I think (and this is just my speculation) that might be coming next.

      So they fixed the stupid design decision in Cortex to have radio traffic over WiFi, this is probably using BT or ANT. They also added wired ethernet. All good. The “look & feel” is improved, has a sort of “Fusion” feel?

      Garmin: The link between the Fist Mic and Head Unit is proprietary (but correct that it’s not over WiFi).

      We would say the look and feel is more Garmin. 🙂

      But now for the downsides:

      – No anchor watch
      – No AIS alarm profiles
      – No AIS vessel list

      Garmin: There is a AIS vessel list. You can interact with it or the AIS plotter to view information about an AIS target or initiate a DSC call. There are AIS alarm tuning options for collision alarms but we have removed the concept of profiles. Instead we have provided a quick shortcut to silence collision alarms from the controls panel (slides down from the top of the screen). This effectively provides the two most common profiles we found were actually being used: marina (off) and underway (on).


      – No monitoring
      – No built in compass
      – Limited control over NMEA 2000 output
      – No cloud connection for monitoring or anchor watch
      – Not a black box so not a drop in replacement

      Garmin: Yes, the Garmin Signal VHF400 and VHF220 are not intended or designed to be a replacement for Cortex. Signal is Garmin’s new premium fixed mount VHF offering and really should be compared with the VHF215 AIS it replaces and other premium fixed mount VHFs from competitors in the market. The VHF400 is designed to compliment the modern helm so will always output AIS, DSC and GPS data over NMEA2000 for use by an MFD.


      For my installation the problem starts with the considerable depth of the device. It makes it impossible to install in many sailboats in the traditional place which is somewhere near the companionway. You’d have to shell out for a RM100 to fix this but then you end up with a useless display you need to put somewhere.

      Garmin: Given the overall size of the unit, this feedback is a little surprising to us. We did choose to prioritize dash space, so focused on getting the dimensions of the front panel as small as we could while also providing a large color display interface. This meant a small compromise on depth, but the depth is actually still shallower than most premium VHFs in market. There are many spots around a sail boat that this can be mounted. The flexiblity of the fist mic placement also opens up installation options in and around a compainon way that would normally be too difficult.

      The anchor watch is less critical to me now that B&G/Simrad have an even better one, but still I don’t get why you would drop this unless they really don’t care about sailboats.

      And there you have it I think: Cortex for the short-distance small console style motorboat. Just so those people don’t need to install two boxes.

      Garmin: While AnchorWatch is not included, this is not a sign that we have written off our sailboat customers. We believe there are a ton of features in the Garmin Signal VHF400/220 which will assist all boaters, make their journeys safer and their VHF easier and more enjoyable to use.

      • Mafkees says:

        Thanks a lot for sharing this. I am hoping to see a new concept similar to the Cortex coming then from Garmin soon.

      • Ulco says:

        Garmin made a realy good working VHF with build in AIS transponder have it on my boat now for a few weeks and reception is great auto squels works fantastic AIS reception and sending works how it should be , the UI is Garmin so easy to use no extra’s you do want on youre VHF because the Ancor watch AIS list and AIS danger list is all in my MFD because there is the place I need it. don’t tink this deveice is a follow up for the Cortex it is a VHF with build in AIS transponder nothing more nothing less .

        • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

          I just got notice that UPS delivered mine. Sadly, I’m out of town for a bit so my installation will be delayed until I return.

          Very happy to hear your early review and report that it just works. Fundamentally, that’s what a VHF radio and AIS transponder should do… work!

          -Ben S.

  10. Hi Ben!
    According to that RM100 manual, the fist mic connection is 2.4 Ghz – I would assume the same as wireless mice, etc. The same manual reveals the ability to connect an external speaker through the “Power/Audio” connector.
    The depth would also be an issue for us, as our helm VHF is mounted in a console with limited depth. Getting our current IC-M506 in was a tight squeeze!

    Hartley
    S?V Atsa

  11. Ulco says:

    I am a marine electronics for almost 30 years now and familiar with all the brands (accept for one ,in Holland Furnuno is not used a lot), mounted a lot of B&G on racing yachts in the early days of my career ( before Simrad bought it) , did a lot of Raymarine (repair and commissioning ) when I worked at the local dealer , now being independent for almost 20 years I work with all the brands , with Garmin as leading brand because off there great U.I. and the minimal product loss.
    I see it this way, all brands have a depth sounder who gives depth information and a wind transducer who gives wind information and a compass who sends out heading information, and that is how it should be!! A product has a function and that data go’s in a network and from there you can use it for whatever its need
    Garmin produced a great VHF with build in AIS transponder, the VHF part is crisp clear because of the auto Squelch, the speaker in the handmike is good enough no speaker needed but one extra is always ok, the reception of both the AIS and VHF are exceptional!! seeing AIS targets over 30 miles with an antenna just 3 mtr above the waterline is pretty ok. So that is what they build!! a great VHF with build in AIS. When I need a compass it sits in my autopilot when necessary or better needed I put a MSC10 or something like that on the top of the boat. All of my alarms : AIS , anchor watch, the AIS alarms list , the monitoring of all the ships around , all of that is on my MFD (Multi Function Display name says it all), it is a nice big screen good read out and touchscreen.
    Why do I want all of that in an small VHF screen . that VHF device is for keeping in touch with other sailors and rescue when needed. I do not want boat remote monitoring on my VHF, I take a sentinel unit for that purpose.
    The Cortex wash multi-function VHF with a lot of BS you do not need on a VHF but that is just an opinion , I mounted only one and that wash the first and the last one to much BS.
    The Cortex cannot be compared with the new signal VHF for that reason I think.
    I think Garmin made a great VHF with build in AIS nothing more nothing less and for dimension discussion it has the same dimensions as the B&G V20 or Simrad RS40 . nobody complained about that … and be creativ there is always a way to build something is a yacht ,I know

  12. Ray says:

    This is such a disappointment. I’ve been living with crumbling Cortex handsets for years now with misplaced hope Garmin would work on a V2 for that system. Instead the fork it with a much less capable unit.

  13. Christopher says:

    I’ve been testing the Signal 220 for a few weeks now, and it gets quite hot in standby RX mode (49°C – 120°F).
    Automated Squelch works great.
    Clear reception of broadcast stations.
    Very easy to use.

    https://youtu.be/RV4E9yKJG94

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