Solid-state lithium-ion batteries, the future of energy storage onboard?

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

12 Responses

  1. James Dory says:

    Looking forward to some day when I can get a battery (lithium or sodium) shipped to me in off-the-highway system in Alaska. Most companies won’t ship to Alaska/Hawaii at all.. but none (that I would trust) ship where it requires air freight or even barge. Even the barge companies have stated they would only ship 2 electric cars at a time from Washington state to Alaska. (Don’t quote me.. I’m always ready to be corrected..)

    • Mark Andrew says:

      I just had a dealer ship 2 12v 100Ah LifPo batteries to me in Fairbanks via the U.S. Postal Service. No issues.

      • James Dory says:

        Thanks for that.. mind sharing the dealer name? Would it be Fisheries Supply?

        • Mark Andrew says:

          Was a retailer called MyGeneratorPlus, purchased for a solar powered setup to pump water from a creek to a mining camp cookhouse up by Coldfoot, AK. You’ll have to check with the fellow (Josh, nice guy), the first ordered battery was to IL, but it required a warrantee replacement (the BMS was locked open…ugh), but he replaced the battery and shipped to Fairbanks via USPS ground freight.

  2. James Dory says:

    Thanks for that.. mind sharing the dealer name? Would it be Fisheries Supply?

  3. Charlie Johnson says:

    At the chance of starting a firestorm and as a very early adapter of LFP technology in the recreational industry, the NMC battery technology just is not as “safe” as LFP and are simply not useable in a 12VDC system without the use of multiple DC/DC converters. This is a wait and see situation for me.

    That said, I continue to watch with interest the development of this next step in battery technology development and am especially looking forward to your torture testing of the Safiery battery.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Charlie,

      I agree about the challenges of NMC’s voltage curve at 12v. I have talked with an installer who has installed SSM’s 12v nominal batteries with success while relying on conversion for some areas. I don’t know that I could recommend it at 12-volts.

      As for the safety considerations. With traditional NMC I would be a hard no for retrofit installation. SSM indicates their cells yield drastically different behavior when in distress. I would love to test that but have had a very hard time getting the batteries from them to test.

      -Ben S.

  4. Lewis Graham says:

    Excellent article, Ben. Thanks.

  5. Think twice! says:

    You have missed one crucial and potentially more important item, and that is boat building rcd/Rcr status if you fit Lithium batteries, if the vessel, was built after June 16th 1998 then the change to lithium will according to RSG RFU 199 most likely constitute a Major Craft Conversion and you would need a Post Construction Assessment carried out by an approved/notified body. I looked in to it recently and found the law changed in 2017 regarding fitting lithium on pleasure craft.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      I am not as familiar with the UK’s regulatory procedures but this article is not delving into the standards, codes, or regulations. The regulatory and insurance issues considerations when moving to newer technology shouldn’t be overlooked. However, those requirements are also changing.

      -Ben S.

  6. Howard says:

    Clark’s Adventures on YouTube opened a Solid State Marine battery and looked up the cell manufacturer. It is a 31 Ah semi solid state pouch cell from King Solid Technology. He intentionally overcharged a cell and the result was a spectacular blowtorch.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Spectacularly unfortunate! Very distressing to see that development. Li Ion batteries, regardless of the chemistry, have a shaky reputation, especially among insurance companies. Episodes like this, where a battery is marketed as very safe and testing shows otherwise, set back that reputation significicantly.

      -Ben S.

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