Raymarine ST70 Plus, super all-in-one?

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

16 Responses

  1. Anonymous says:

    Never a greater contradiction in terms than “American English” English is English and Colour is Colour no need for the ” ” 🙂

  2. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Please don’t take me too seriously; I meant no harm. But, in fact, even this ST70 can be set to “US English” or “UK English” (which it obviously was). The differences aren’t major, or important, they are a hassle for programmers, editors, etc.
    http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/jones/spelling.htm
    By the way, the ST70 Plus can alternately display Spanish, French, German, Dutch, Italian, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Portuguese, Russian, Finnish, Greek, Chinese, Korean, and Japanese.

  3. Larry Brandt says:

    “Children of a common mother, separated by a common language”…or something near that. Shaw wasn’t it?

  4. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    Ben, does the ST70 plus use the same software as the ST70 ? What improvements have you seen?
    A few comments have appeared on Panbo complaining about the ST70 in combination with other devices, a few days ago with the autopilot.
    My experience is that the ST70 alone has been a good addition to my sailboat, and an excellent all round lead forward in display offerings.
    I used it to replace an ST60 graphic that was originally installed to provide my crew feedback on boat speed as they trim the sails … but it was too difficult to see from the sides of the cockpit where the winches are.
    The ST70 on the other hand is viewable from a wide angle, is viewable in direct sunlight, and is very configurable.

  5. Russell says:

    Why does the sail version use a keypad while the power uses a dial? What is the logic that suggests sailors do not like dials? I loved the dial on my old Cetrek autopilot and really prefered it to the keypad on my new ST70.

  6. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    The software is similar but different, Dan, largely because the Plus has four times more pixels to work with. If you compare the manuals, you’ll see graphic differences, added dialog boxes, etc. “Some” of these improvements can be migrated to the ST70 and apparently will be.
    It strikes me that if you are not using the SeaTalkNG/N2K features of your ST70, you’re only experiencing a fraction of its abilities. Why not build a small NMEA 2000 network with the ST70 and the Airmar Weather Station and Compass you’re testing?

  7. Poorman says:

    At almost 8 inches wide by 6 inches high and a list price of $1750 US…….
    What is the target market for this monster instrument display, Stevie Wonder’s new Mega-Yacht?
    Just curious

  8. JesperW says:

    …and the thing draws a nasty 700ma.
    That’s not going on my sailboat anyways!
    /j

  9. r2d2 says:

    @Russell. Sailboats use the tack function. For that you need to press simultaneously the +-1, +-10 keys. If you don’t use/need the tack function, you can install the dial version keypad in your sailboat.

  10. Russell says:

    r2d2, still does not make sense, a seperate tack button could be added so a dial is available to sailors as well.

  11. Russell says:

    One thing I hope is improved is switching between night/day palettes and brightness. On the current ST70 this is a pain, involving several menu operations (while trying to stop blinding yourself and navigating at the same time), especially when compared to the Raymarine MFDs where it is easy (though quick presets would still be an improvement on the MFDs).
    A wishlist item for me would be a photodiode that automaticly switched between preset day and night settings. Its simple technology. Hmm, can the ST70 and MFDs respond to NMEA2000 instructions to change these settings? Could be a nice aftermarket product.

  12. Dave says:

    I just purchased a Furuno FI50 display that will give me the same information, has the photodiode for auto night/day switching, draws 1/10th the power, costs 1/3rd as much, and has a larger font than the count down timer picture above. Granted it doesn’t have a color display but I’m not into reading color books or newspapers yet either. I also agree in that I don’t see the market for this display in a modern cockpit or yacht bridge where the main nav displays are growing and squeezing out everything else.

  13. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Dave, I think the Furuno displays are excellent on many counts, particularly visibility:
    https://panbo.com/archives/2008/06/n2k_instruments_in_direct_sun.html
    But have you tried the set up “menus” yet? Furuno’s screen designers were harshly limited by the segmented display, good as it is in other ways.
    As for the ST70 Plus, there’s no doubt those big displays are meant to mount on the masts or cockpit bulkheads of big sail boats, or on expansive yacht helms. But I bet we’ll see the concept — all-in-one N2K display with one or many separate keypads for one or many displays — made more modest for middle size vessels, by Raymarine or others.

  14. Olsonist says:

    Anything that could justify that power draw and that dinero draw would have to be megayacht big.
    I like that the display has no buttons. The FI50 and IS20 have graphic and digital versions for bulkhead and mast respectively. There’s no reason you need buttons on the digital version for the mast. Buttons just add cost and take away screen real estate. You should be able to program them remotely.

  15. Dan Corcoran (b393capt) says:

    Ben wrote “It strikes me that if you are not using the SeaTalkNG/N2K features of your ST70, you’re only experiencing a fraction of its abilities. Why not build a small NMEA 2000 network with the ST70 and the Airmar Weather Station and Compass you’re testing?”
    –> Yes, I should do that.
    Olsonist “Anything that could justify that power draw and that dinero draw would have to be megayacht big.”
    —> I wonder, if in some applications this could replace three or four mast displays making the power draw more reasonable and the price attractive … and if the display can be seen from very wide angles in all lighting conditions that is a big plus. Additionaly since this can be remote controlled to switch pages so you have race start, upwind, reaching, downwind, cruise with family, etc. without using a PC … their could be a power savings … maybe even in your case ?

  16. Olsonist says:

    It is too wide for the mast. It needs to be mounted inside a Navpod for protection from spinnaker poles. This Escalade kind of thinking is common but we really want smaller lighter cheaper. The IS20s are $350 * 3.
    I do like the remote control feature a lot and hopefully that will get copied in the IS20, ST70 and FI50 series.

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