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Raymarine: same network. Axion 7 inside and Element 7 outside not working

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Giuseppe Massoni
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Happy New Year everybody!

Sailing boat here.

SeatalkNG backbone. Axiom 7 will work with no issues at all times, while the new Element 7 which I hooked up outside, near the helm, will not "recognize" the Axiom 7 if this is  turned on and will ask to remove it from the network and no longer work. 

I'm also confused as WHY the software coming with the Element 7 is a lame version of Lighthouse... Maybe an option to upgrade and be able to run the "proper" version?

On the bright side: the 3D models Raymarine available for download are just super. I could model my custom brackets on top of it. 


   
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Ben Ellison
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Hi Giuseppe, I'm not familiar with the Element Series but I see the following on the Model Compare page ( https://www.raymarine.com/element-series/ )

"The Element Series products use a different operating system to our Axiom range of Multifunction displays. Element displays and Axiom displays cannot be networked together on the same system."

Raymarine should probably be even more specific -- as in "cannot be networked together on the same SeaTalkNG system" -- as that is an unusual limitation. However, I think they make it pretty clear that Element is a lowerer cost standalone screen design not meant to compete with the various Axiom models. In fact, they carefully avoid the "multifunction display" term though the Element can do chart plotting, sonar, and radar (over WiFi) while apparently supporting lots of STng/N2K sensors and devices.

Also, for the same reasons, I very much doubt that the Element's "Lighthouse Sport" OS can be upgraded to full Lighthouse. Sorry that you learned this the hard way!

 


   
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Giuseppe Massoni
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Thanks Ben! You are right and I should have looked more carefully into this. The reseller also was surprised as how it behaved in the same STNG network. I turned it in and got another Axiom at the helm. At least they can share the maps with the ethernet network.

Having said this I'm confused about the logic of developing and supporting two "different" versions of Lighthouse OS...


   
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Timo Giling
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The Element Series are more to be seen as a 'budget chart plotter' with a very limited functionality. Many N2k / Seatalk NG pgn's are not supported as they are meant to be used as a stand alone unit on small vessels. If you want anything more than just the basics (now or in the near future) leave the Element Series in the store and go for the, unfortunately quite more expensive, Axiom Series.


   
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