Raymarine Axiom & LH3, a little fishing & then the install

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

15 Responses

  1. Evan Bauman says:

    Ben – since you have a Cam 220 camera on your boat, would you be able to let me know if it is able to work with Garmin’s marine network? If I plug one of these into such a network, would it show up on the Garmin screen as an available camera feed?

  2. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Hi Evan, I’m way behind with installs and testing but maybe can try that eventually. I believe that both Garmin and Raymarine use the IP camera standard Onvif to some degree, but have also heard that there are devils in the Onvif details.
    Note that Iris has IP boat cams that may be compatible with both Raymarine and Garmin:
    Also current Garmin MFDs have a terrific WiFi interface with their VIRB action cams, some of which can be boat powered:

  3. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    PS, Evan, I recall now that Garmin is fussy about the POE used to power many IP cameras:
    I am using a little Raymarine supplied POE injector box in the install above, but Ray does not require an additional POE isolation coupler like Garmin does (or maybe did?).
    One thing that would be neat to see on “Axiom Pro” MFDs or a n updated RayNet switch is multiple POE RayNet ports so single cable networked cams would attach direct. I believe that NMEA OneNet — which really is going to happen, I hear — includes this capability as a standard.

  4. Paul E says:

    What’s up with Raymarine going with the standard N2K connector? Is Raymarine abandoning SeaTalk NG?

  5. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Paul, I think that Raymarine supports both their own SeaTalkNG connector/cable system and the standard N2K connector/cable system (while the data and 12v power doesn’t know the difference).
    For a while now their MFDs have shipped with a short adaptor cable so the installer could go from the STng port to micro N2K male easily. But in this case where they’re supplying the cable, a regular N2K connector made more sense because it’s harder to extend an STng spur cable.
    You can still install an Axiom on a STng cable system, but you’ll need an STng to micro N2K female adaptor cable and maybe a length of standard N2K cable to cover the distance from adaptor cable N2K end to Axiom cable end.

  6. NotMyRealName says:

    One thing which suprised me with the Axiom displays is the lack of 1kW chirp sounder built in. Garmin and now Simrad both have dual frequency 1kW chirp – so it’s suprising Ray have not caught up? Perhaps in the Pro models you mentioned?

  7. Willliam says:

    Your statement about the cover of “it will take a hurricane to dislodge this new cover design. However, it only works if the Axiom is installed in its included bracket mount.” is half true. I’ve installed six of these now. 1 on a bracket mount, and five in a dash. Raymarine includes a foam spacer/gasket, and if you don’t over tighten when flush mounting you can get the cover on and the tabs will engage behind the screen. I wouldn’t trailer with it on, but it will be fine on a boat sitting at the dock. And you’re right, the cover is well secured once clipped in place.

  8. gregy says:

    on IP cameras
    yes (some) third party cameras can work,
    camera must support ONVIF protocol. AND needs to be configured (via connection to conventional LAN ) to disable
    ONVIF authentication BEFORE connecting to axiom/raynet LAN
    ive had success with “dahua”brand IP dome camera using above config.

  9. gregy says:

    also a caution on the RV cable/connector..
    its “quite large”.. and whilst raymarine have done an admiral job of minimising its size to pull thru ducts/holes by having a removable locking collar .. its still a largish connector that DOES take up space and grab cables ….
    retrofit as i discovered takes a lot of care (& patience) when pulling the RV cable thru longish cable ducts!

  10. gregy says:

    ref navionics updates … and the rear mounted SD card slot.
    the current axiom LH3 supports axiom updates over wifi …
    but does NOT enable navionics updates over wifi …
    this coupled with the rear mount maps sd card slot
    is a real PAIN!
    eg .. the only way i can see at present to update my navionics maps
    is to remove my dashboard to get to rear of axiom and remove map SD card and update in PC & then reinstall in axiom & refit dashboard … NOT so friendly .
    .. unless im missing something

  11. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks, Gregy, the Dahua ONVIF camera compatibility is great to know about. I’m not sure how they’d hold up in a marine environment, but it’s not a big expense to experiment: http://amzn.to/2tgm1Bk
    I also meant to say that I saw the new FLIR M200 thermal camera demonstrated on the water in Miami and was really impressed with the “ClearCruise intelligent thermal analytics technology” that is unique to Axiom and LH3 because it’s largely done in the MFD. It was amazing how quickly and reliably it visually high identified solid objects in the water, even mooring balls, while ignoring moving water and fixed shore objects. I just received one for testing and hope to have it installed soon.
    The rear mounted SD card slot is a painful price to pay for the all glass face, but I trust it will be fixed with remote SD/USB device planned. I’m already using a USB extension cable to easily get at collected screenshots but so far the Axiom’s USB port does not seem to work with encrypted charts. Also, an SD card initialized in LH3 does not accept chart downloads from the Raymarine Chart Store yet. I’m looking forward to Axiom/LH3 updates 😉

  12. gregy says:

    hi ben, for reference here is the mfr web site details on camera ive had success with,
    its all plastic – so hopefully resilient in our environment, bears a (very) striking resemblance to
    the photos of Raymarine IP CAM220 (which is undoubtably OEMd from a chinse CCTV mfr anyway) .
    …. and it cost me 1/6 (yes i can replace it 6 times for same price as the raymarine RRP).
    .. thats a lot of experimental risk avoidance 🙂
    … i also used juidicous sika application around base to get waterproofing .
    it is IR capable, and i was pleasantly suprised by how well it illuminates my cockpit/swimplatform and nearby water at rear of boat with zero ambient lighting.
    (works well as a “reversing camera” .. its intended use)

  13. Anonymous says:

    Raymarine do sell a different sun cover for surface mount options for Axiom.

  14. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks all. It took me a while but now I understand that while the Axiom suncover that came with my test unit is only meant to work with the bracket mount — it has special “ears” for that purpose — Ray is offering an optional surface mount suncover that apparently grips the thin crevice created by the foam gasket that’s included in the surface mount scheme illustrated above: http://amzn.to/2tWwulZ

  15. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    PS Ray also has an Axiom RV 25 pin to 7 pin adaptor cable…
    …so an Axiom RV can work with 7 pin transducers like the CPT120 I installed on Gizmo a few years ago:
    In fact, the adaptor is working fine on Gizmo right now (which meant I got to remove and return the CP100 Sonar Module). Plus the Axiom 7 is now also working fine with the Quantum radar and an M200 FLIR pan and zoom thermal camera (plus the Cam220 IP shown above) all via the already installed Ray network switch.
    None of this has slowed the Axiom down a bit. The same cameras and switch also work fine with the eS128 on the fly bridge but I’m told I can not run the two MFDs simultaneously until the eS gets the LightHouse 3 update (which I am sure ready to beta test 😉

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