ABYC publishes updated battery and electrical standards

Ben Stein

Ben Stein

Publisher of Panbo.com, passionate marine electronics enthusiast, 100-ton USCG master.

12 Responses

  1. Glyn says:

    Thanks for the excellent wrap up Ben. Must say I’m surprised how high the AIC ratings required are particularly for Lead Acid batteries. Given the millions of installations in service with significantly lower AIC Over Current Protection in marine, RV and automotive, I’m curious whether (a) this has been a significant issue to date and also (b) if there is readily available information detailing actual battery testing.
    I’ve previously spent time searching for short circuit current information specific to LFP batteries with internal BMS’s with mosfet shutoffs. It was extremely hard to find any solid data and it was mostly anecdotal. Getting battery manufacturers to supply this would be a major step forwards.

    • Juppe says:

      Batteries (at least the good ones) with a mosfet switch built in will shut off when a short circuit or massive overcurrent is detected, so there basically is no short circuit current to speak off. Unless the mosfets fail, but in that case the manufacturer has to state specifications for a broken product and I don’t see that happening. I think you shouldn’t depend on the mosfets to kill or limit the current in case of a short circuit, and install a fuse according to the battery capacity. (table 3C)

      • Glyn says:

        Agreed, this in line with what I have been specifying other than using lower figures than in table 3B and 3C. I should mention I’m primarily dealing with RV applications and am in NZ not USA however I look to USCG and other standards as guidelines for best practice.
        As a comparison, if you look at Victron’s Lynx products they show a system example using the Lynx Distributor with paralleled Victron Lithium batteries (no capacity shown) using Mega fuses (generally 2000A AIC). The USCG figures would limit battery size to 40AH max each. I’m sure there are plenty of installations using these with larger batteries, has it really been a problem? And yes, Victron have another Lynx product with 2x Class T’s.
        In the RV world there are a heap of 100AH and larger LFP internal BMS/Mosfet batteries installed with no main fuse at all (!), and while I find this very disturbing, anecdotally people seem to be getting away with it.
        I was hoping that people may highlight research/testing papers that provide the background for the table 3B/3C USCG figures, and/or case studies where there have been serious incidents caused by inadequate AIC rated OCP.

  2. Allen Jones says:

    Much thanks to you Ben for outlining the changes. Super helpful! Ill probably have to read it several times..lol.

  3. Colin Davis Colin Davis says:

    Fantastic, thank you! I’ve been hoping someone would write this overview. I know it’s still going to take a while to really wrap my head around these changes, but this is a great overview.

  4. William Deertz says:

    Ben, excellent write up. With the updated clarity it has me reconsidering my OCP on my install from 4 years ago. Current setup is 4 separate strings of 3 24v 50Ahr LFP in parallel each string fused with MBRF fuse at 175 amps to a common bus bar. After the common bus bar I have a 300 amp Class T fuse. Given total bank is 600Ahr does 11.10.1.4 mean I should put a MBRF fuse on each battery at say 50A? Would I also need to split the strings into 1/2 and 3/4 and fuse each with its own 300A class T fuse? Given the clarity of 5000 AIC for each 100Ahr my 600Ahr bank would exceed the class T AIC of 20K amps. So splitting in two would keep each 1/2 and 3/4 strings below 20K amps. Thanks for any inputs.

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      William,

      In order to meet the new requirements, I believe you would need OCP on each battery. 10.11.1.4.1 (excerpted above) states that for banks over 500ah, “a battery AIC safety overcurrent protection device shall be installed between each battery in the battery bank.” I suppose there might be some creative interpretation that says you have four 150 ah battery banks and you’re just joining them, but I don’t think that would strictly meet the new requirements. Note that typically, the requirement in our industry is that an installation comply with the current standards at the time the installation is completed or updated. So, if you don’t make major changes, you are probably technically compliant with the standard when you completed the installation.

      -Ben S.

  5. Charlie Johnson says:

    Ben-Excellent summary. Thank you for doing the significant dog work to produce this as you have provided a great resource for anybody that is curious.

  6. Dan Corcoran says:

    Great outline, Ben. Credit to ABYC and all their volunteers.
    Good detail, like separating TPPL batteries from other lead acid in the AIC table.

    Are we at a point where we should have no fear of boat fires due to Lithium, when these standards are followed?

    Are we at a point, any fear of Lithium should instead focus on those cheap consumer devices with in-built lithium batteries, like fans and flashlights, or even not them?

    • Ben Stein Ben Stein says:

      Dan,

      Good questions with regards to the state of the technology and the potential concern around its use. First, I don’t think we are at a point where we should lose respect for the energy potential of these batteries. Simply put, they store a lot of energy and they’re willing to dispense that energy quickly weather to a load, a short circuit, or a lose connection generating lots of heat. To that end, systems with this technology must be designed by people who understand the potential and the appropriate mitigations. So, should we fear lithium batteries? I don’t think so, but we certainly should respect them.

      I feel much less equipped to answer your second question but will note that the majority of fire casualties I hear about that are attributed to lithium batteries ultimately trace back to batteries brought on the boat in another device. But, those anecdotes might be deceiving as I think there are many more batteries brought on boats in other devices than there are those installed in boats.

      -Ben S.

  7. Paul s Inconiglios says:

    Ben, if to could help me and maybe others on this. On Lithium, a class T fuse on each batter within 7″. Ok! But now from that fuse block/s, that cable goes to a busbar. Is another class T fuse needed between the busbar and the cable suppling the load? Or can another type of fuse be used?

  8. @ Paul
    The first fuse off of a battery can be as far away as 72” if the cable is protected. We use FR split loom. Regarding loads off the bus bar: match the OCPD to the conductor ampacity and you will be ABYC E-11 compliant.

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