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Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

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  1. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Fun. I checked to see if Speedboat was visible via AIS in Newport, and she just got underway. Hopefully they’ll go outside and let er rip.
    http://ais1.siitech.com/VTS/AView.aspx

  2. Tyler says:

    I found these little guys and have actually installed a couple on sailboats. They are Atom based, fanless and have built-in wifi, ethernet, 6 usb ports, only draw about 10watts at 12v and are 4in square by 1in thick. They take standard 2.5in SATA notebook hard-drives – I installed solid state drives in the units I deployed. They run XP, Win7 or linux. The only downsides are that they run a little hot and the video output is digital only, so you can’t connect to a monitor that doesn’t have DVI in.
    http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab-fit-PC2-Atom-Z530-Windows/dp/B003KJBNAY/ref=pd_cp_pc_2
    http://www.compulab.co.il/fitpc2/html/fitpc2-datasheet.htm

  3. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks, Tyler! What sort of software did you install and how well did it perform? The FitPC2 is really attractive but some people seem to think that the Z530 doesn’t have enough moxie for programs like Coastal Explorer. I also asked MaxSea to look at the graphic specs and they are leery that MSTZ can run decently on it.

  4. Noah says:

    I was lucky enough to score a Datalux iPix on Ebay for $90.00 – it makes an awesome boat computer, and I would recommend one to others. You can read more on their website: http://datalux.com/IPIX_overview.asp
    But a few key features for me:
    Runs on 12volts with internal power conditioning, and has an internal backup battery
    splash resistant
    no moving parts (other than a hard drive, which could be swapped for an SSD).
    It’s silent and very well built/rugged.
    Made to run on batteries (in a hospital setting), so it’s very efficient
    Has a screen power down button right on the front to conserve power
    VESA mount.
    About the only downside would be that the screen, while bright wouldn’t classify as sunlight readable. I have a second smaller monitor on a swing arm for that.
    Take a look, I think it’s a great solution.

  5. Devon Ayres says:

    I used both the original FITPC 1 and FITPC 2 on my cruising boat. The FIT1 became a testbed for winlink2000 and other PC based email applications. Its major drawback was that it required a monitor which used more power than it did. The Fit2 ended up as a file server aboard, with 4 1TB hard disks in USB enclosures attached. The fit2 wasnt on full time, but only got activated to access media libararies and download them to a laptop or cheap tablet from motion computing (cheap used on ebay).
    I think if I was going to do it again, I would skip the mini servers altogether and just have a 12V USB disk enclosure and a nettop. Everything else sucks too much power which I would rather use for the fridge.

  6. Tyler says:

    Ben – I have Nobeltec Admiral MaxPro running on it with no problems thus far (only a few hundred miles of passages around the Med). I was a bit worried about performance before installing it, but it has not been a problem. This particular boat doesn’t really use any of the 3D nav functions, but in testing even that worked fine…I haven’t tried running any other nav software on it though. In this particular install I connected the fit2pc with an 8 port USB / Serial converter to bring in all the 0183 feeds. I also installed a usb powered and connected 9in monitor (link below) to display additional data when using the multi-monitor functions in Nobeltec.
    http://www.amazon.com/9IN-LCD-1024X600-300-DS-90U/dp/B002Q0WNGQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1276618745&sr=8-2

  7. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Thanks again. Incidentally, I just got a press release announcing version 10.7 of Max Pro, now simply called VNS and Admiral 10. Notable Special Offer:
    “For a limited time {through August} customers on versions 5, 6 or 7 of VNS and Admiral can upgrade to version 10.7 for the upgrade fee normally only available to version 8 and 9 users.”
    Those upgrade prices are $179 and $349, and current 10 owners get a NOAA raster library free (otherwise $50).

  8. HI Ben,
    Take a look down the road in Rockland at Rockbound Computer. They make what they call “Navroc” computers and their primary market is lobsterboats.

  9. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Eric Steinberg tried to post this comment but got error messages (darn it; is anyone else having trouble?):
    ““Ben, I left out that the PC display on the 40 is only a display remote to a Asus Netbook. We were going to fit a FitPC, but the 2i model with the boot on power-up feature was not available yet.
    We have used a FitPC on another project and thus far are happy. It makes for a very clean install, we really like the wifi antenna connector – so the antenna can be located outside on a carbon boat. A FitPC is being spec’ed for another racing yacht in SF for Pacific Cup… a really wet boat that is driven hard, so it will be a great test.
    As far as horsepower, we are usually running Expedition which has no problem with a netbook. I have seen some artifacts when zooming quickly, but it is short lived and a worthy trade-off.”

  10. Adam says:

    Apple released a new Mac Mini yesterday that looks like a great fit for powerboats. It’s about half the height of the old Mini, uses only 10W power at idle, and has very fast graphics that should run any plotter application beautifully. In addition, the power supply is now internal so no need to find room for the brick. Replace the HD with an SDD and you have a nearly-perfect helm PC. Only downside is that internal PSU now means no DC option.

  11. chriggel says:

    Does anybody understand all the fuzz about the IStar GPS? It apparently uses the Doppler effect to calculate course and speed over ground – but so does my old Garmin 60CS with it’s PhaseTrack12 receiver. The SirfIII chipsets seem to have difficulties in providing accurate speed and course over ground as long as the vessel’s speed is low. What about the newest MTK MT3329 chipsets in Garmin Receivers – has anybody experience with these?

  12. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Speedboat was first to finish Bermuda Race this morning (again). Congrats to Eric and others. Best viewer:
    http://cloud.iboattrack.com/r/google_view.php?r=2010_newport_bermuda

  13. Hey, I know Eric and he’s a sharp guy. (along with Myles in Florida, he’s one of the guys who’ve helped us keep our old B & G running all these years). But my preference (sorry Eric) is to use good quality, mass market, notebook PC’s to provide plenty of processing power, lots of features, and very low power usage.
    Our new Dell Studio 1558 runs at 30w and that includes the computer, HD, Optical Drive, monitor, keyboard, USB interfaces, and external drives. It has an I5-520M, 2.4, 3MB, Arrandale, C2 processor, a 1080p HD screen and that power budget includes recharging the nine-cell lithium battery with provides further power back-up.
    Over the years we have always used basic, mass-market, notebooks and have had great luck with them.
    Our overall system is not the most advanced (no NMEA200, for example) but we don’t mind keeping our systems simple; they’ve got to keep working. The computer runs the navigation/charting system,the AIS display, all of our digital communications, plus all of our music, video, bookkeeping, photo editing, everything. With our approach we know we can plug and play a replacement which can be purchased anywhere in the world.

  14. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Pretty amazing Sydney Hobart race happening. With 25 hours underway the original Speedboat, now named Perpetual Loyal, is just a third of mile ahead of perpetual winner Wild Oats XI. Stan Honey is navigating the leader, which also raced, and turned turtle, as Rambler 100.
    http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/
    Interesting that Wild Oats skipper Mark Richards is also the guy responsible for perhaps the most beautiful line of high performance cruising powerboats:
    http://www.pbmotoryachts.com/profile.html

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