The Geonav writers event, part 1

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

17 Responses

  1. Andreas says:

    Looks like some neat stuff. Too bad it doesn’t support NMEA 2000.

  2. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Andreas, the G10/12 MFDs do not support NMEA 2000, but the GIS10/12 MFDs and the MIS instrument display definitely will (though they’re the ones I didn’t get to see demoed).

  3. Chris Witzgall says:

    They have some nice looking gear, but there is not allot of information there. It seems that the website is a bit ahead of actual product availability? I tried the webform to ask for a catalog, but the form errored out. There are no product manuals available. The mention that drive units for autopilots are available, but no specifics on them at all?
    Lastly, not everyone wants or needs (or has the space for) 10in and 12in displays. Bigger is not always better!

  4. One Big plus is that the products are assembled in America! Though not all of the internals are made in the USA, at least the consumer can feel good about an american worker getting their piece of the pie. Makes me want to push the product for that one reason.

  5. Chris says:

    I’ve seen these new Geonav units few times already in different venues, and I must admit they look good. Usability has not been tested in any way yet, at least I think that the software has so far been some sort of Pre-production software… Or then it is just not as good as the price tag would let one assume.
    Anyway, the website has been the same for over a year now, only additions have been the GIS and autopilots that were added. These new units have been “launching” for almost a year now (Genoa boat show Oct 2009), and I am starting to feel that Geonav/JO might miss another season. All major boat shows (at least in Europe) are just around the corner or are already over (London, Dusseldorf)..
    And have to agree previous Chris, would have loved to see 8″ display as well, or even a 7″ and 8,4″… 10″ and 12″ is a deal breaker for many users with smaller/OC boats. But that is why JO has Humminbird, even though it is not the same .. 🙂

  6. Arno Molenaar says:

    The Italian site is still up and there are the smaller chardplotters

  7. Bruce says:

    ‘Thank you’ to Ben and the comments. Ben clarified that GIS10 and GIS12 have NMEA2000. The G10 and G12 are targeted for single station installations and we feel the built-in 2kW sonar is a unique value in this category. The MID110 provides NMEA2000 graphic and alphanumeric info. Geonav in fact, is a start-up and presents a lot of challenges, but it has been fun to bring a comprehensive product line to market! The products are manufactured in Alabama with components from various countries. It is not possible to obtain all components from one country any longer. Geonav and Humminbird address different sectors of the market and the latter have a terrific line-up for the smaller vessels and there is very cool stuff in the pipeline.
    Best to you all
    Bruce Angus

  8. Arno Molenaar says:

    I checked my Geonav 4c and its made in Taiwan

  9. Chris says:

    Arno: Do not confuse the “old” Geonav lineup with the new one (G/GIS). The old ones are original Italian Geonav (manufactured in Far East), and the new ones comes from JO factories in the US.
    Your G4C is manufactured years before JO bought Geonav.. It was the times with Navionics…

  10. Bruce says:

    Arno – The Geonav 4C and Gypsy handhelds are legacy products and no longer available. You are correct that they and other legacy Geonav products were made in Taiwan. The new Geonav products are made in Alabama.

  11. Chris says:

    Bruce and/or Ben,
    is there any confirmed schedule for G/GIS model availability yet? When are we going to see these new units in the market?

  12. Bruce says:

    The G12, G10 and MID110 will ship in February 2011. Shipping now are GSC110 autopilot and accessories, radars, transducers, AIS, MapMaster, 3-axis heading sensor. GIS12, GIS10 and GSM2000 with Side Imaging sonar will ship in fall 2011.

  13. Chris says:

    Briuce, thank you for the update.

  14. Sandy Daugherty says:

    I’m guessing that’s Koden’s radar, a non-issue. Its a bit much to expect a startup to lead with a fully mature and competitive product as challenging as state of the art radars.

  15. Sandy Daugherty says:

    Bruce: are there plans for satellite weather overlays?

  16. Bruce says:

    Chris – Yes, we are using Koden manufactured radars (they mfg in Taiwan) for the reasons you mention. We have additional radar product plans in the hopper.
    Sandy – our MapMaster PC product currently does GRIB satellite photo overlays. We don’t have a sat wx option on the MFDs yet. The big sportfishers definitely want sat wx but I think the overall market for real time wx on 25-50 ft boats is being eroded by the ubiquitous smart phone wx (e.g. ‘MyCast’) in conjunction with marine Wi-Fi and cellular amplifiers, which will serve the needs of most day-trippers and coastal excursions.

  17. Sandy Daugherty says:

    Bruce: 25-50′ boats get beyond cell phone range. But more importantly, easily accessible and more easily understood satellite weather, super-imposed on a chart showing your route, radar, and obstructions is a totally satisfactory answer. If you don’t have it, you aren’t a player.
    Please re-evaluate that decision; without it you have the first strike against you, being the new kid is the second strike. Not having a price advantage would be the third. Having it will keep you in the game.
    I’m rooting for you, as should everyone else in the market, because new competition is essential.

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