Wave WiFi Rogue Reach Dual Band, excellent high-power marine WiFi

Ben Ellison

Ben Ellison

Panbo editor, publisher & chief bottlewasher from 4/2005 until 8/2018, and now pleased to have Ben Stein as a very able publisher, webmaster, and editing colleague. Please don't regard him as an "expert"; he's getting quite old and thinks that "fadiddling fumble-putz" is a more accurate description.

17 Responses

  1. Lynn Nelson says:

    How does it compare to Agean

  2. Naturally, I FINALLY get my 2 GHz Bullet mounted atop the solar panel frame back aft and everything working well, and you go showing me a better (well, easier) way.. I’d love to have the ease of operation and dualband, but man, is that expensive! It looks like I could mount Steve’s solution (Mikrotik) in the same case, so that would give me dualband, anyway.

  3. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Happy to report: Wave WiFi recognizes that there is a sidebar issue with the Roque interface on Pixel phones (and maybe other Android devices?), and plans to fix it soon.

  4. Grant Jenkins says:

    Ben, any idea what radio device the Rogue Reach/Pro is using? I’m pretty sure Ubiquiti (manufacturer of the original Bullet & Bullet HP) no longer offers any dual-band devices other than for proprietary network applications…. for those of us with existing setups, it might be easier to swap out just the radio part to add the 5gHz band. I get that the user interface is the value in Rogues kit, just sayin’…

    • Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

      Grant, I think you’re right about Ubiquiti dual-band bullet-style WiFi devices, and I believe that Wave WiFi stopped using bullets anyway. But, sorry, I do not know where they’re sourcing the radios now built into single and dual-band Rogues.

  5. Larry Olson says:

    Great article, however where do we get passwords for these sites? When I travel, the vast majority of sites require a password and those that don’t do not work well.

    • Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

      Larry, I don’t have any big secrets to share but if you dine at a waterfront restaurant where you can see your boat in the distance, you might ask about WiFi access that could be useful later if you have a high-power system. Also, I’ve experienced many public access points, and secure marina hotspots, that are useless on 2.4GHz but work fine on 5GHz channels.

  6. John Morfit says:

    Locomarine has the Yacht Router product line that incorporates a WiFi extender along with cellular (optional, I believe) for automatic multi-mode internet service on a boat. See https://yachtrouter.com/product/wifi-extender/. They are pricier than the WaveWiFi products. You can find them at Gemeco and others.

  7. Ben Ellison Ben Ellison says:

    Pretty cool: Gizmo has been online via Wave Rogue in Camden Harbor for a month without me ever fiddling with it. It found one of the hotspots on the Favorites list I set up last fall and — though I know it’s switched to others as conditions changed (only because I peeked at the web interface) — my WiFi dependent boat monitoring has been rock solid ever since.

  8. Dave says:

    This was great info, we have Wi-Fi in our marina but it’s in and out. Looks like I have new winter project on the list.

  9. I would be rather cautious with the Wave hardware. My experience has been quite poor. I have had two units fail after the warranty period. Wave’s response is to offer a “discounted” replacement at $250. No repairs, no real help. Also there are a number of quirks in the management software that require going in and reconnecting a “favorite” access point. Finally, the performance is mediocre at best. At my home dock, I can connect to the harbor wi-fi with my iPhone directly and see 20mbs on a speed test. If I use my onboard router that is connected to the Rogue Pro for wifif access on the phone, the speed test shows only 12mbs. In fact, the Rogue Pro hardly sees any access points that the phone cannot see on its own. This despite the Rogue Pro with its 24″ omnidirectional antenna being mounted 15 feet off the deck with no obstructions.

    Now that my second Rogue Pro has failed, I am going to try a much cheaper and different alternative. rather than spend another $250 for an inferior, unreliable product.

    • Ben Ellison says:

      Thanks for the report, Fred. I wouldn’t think that there was much difference between the Rogue Pro and the Rogue Reach Dual Band I’ve been testing, but we’re certainly having different results. I don’t recall ever resetting a Favorite access point and actually have hardly looked at which favorite AP was being used all season. I do know that the Reach hops around a bit as WiFi conditions change in Camden harbor, but I get notified if my Victron monitoring goes offline for more than 11 minutes and I rarely get one.

      Also, I anchored way out in Rockland Harbor a couple of weeks mainly to test Vesper Cortex but also intent on running up the hotspot allowance on my newish Verizon account to see how fast it was beyond the limit. But then I realized that the Rogue Reach had at some point switched over from the phone to the Journeys End Marina WiFi I’d made into a favorite last fall. And the connection was fast although Gizmo was slightly over a nautical mile from the marina.

      At any rate, I’m sure I’m not the only one curious about what you’re trying now and how it works out.

  10. Sometimes we all just have bad luck with a product. Perhaps the Rogue cannot take the physical shocks of being mounted high on a 30+ kt boat operated in what can be pretty rough conditions. The company shouldn’t market it as a marine product or at least should warn that it is not suitable for high speed boats or rough conditions.

    My experiment is with a Microtik Groove 52, which costs less than $100 including the antenna. It has dual band capability and is very flexible in configuration although requiring more technical knowledge than the very simple Rogue interface. I have no idea if it is true but I have read that the circuit board of the Rogue devices is actually supplied by Microtik.

    I will report back once I have it up and running.

  11. Wow that is terrific, thanks for the link on setting up the Groove. I could probably have figured it out but following Steve’s guide is much simpler.

    If the Groove cannot survive offshore runs, at least I could buy four new ones for the cost of the Rogue Pro!

  12. Got it up and running. Small problem at first because the one I bought was configured as an access point and not a client/extender. Easy to change once I got into the settings.

    It seems to work better than the Rogue Pro. It was showing more access points and the connection speed was faster. I saw a couple of 5gHz access points too but they are far away and had weak signals.

    We’ll see how it survives its harsh new life. Thanks again to Steve.

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